Thursday, October 31, 2013
Chapter 7: As Long as Grass Grows or Water Runs
In a 6-8 sentence response answer the following: Andrew Jackson’s Indian policy represented a fundamental shift in U.S. policy toward Native Americans. Analyze how the interests of the natives had increasingly become at odds with the interests of the U.S. government.
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Andrew Jackson was a hero to the American public, but feared by many including the Indians. Jackson was a leading advocate for Indian removal throughout his adult life. When the boarders of the newly found american country expanded, the Indians were the ones in the way. The natives weren't the interest of the U.S. governement, but onl there lands. The U.S. bought and even forced themselves onto Indian land and brutally murdered the innocent. The removal policy was a complete genocide of the indians, and the land was the what kept it going.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you when you say the Indians were only in interest for the land they were on because the treaties would either make the Indians sell their land or get runned over by white land speculators who left them with nothing.
DeleteI can agree with the fact that "The natives weren't the interest of the U.S. government, but only THEIR lands". Since Jackson only wanted that land to increase his power and create balance in slavery it is obvious that he only sought for expansion and not the Indians
DeleteI agree with you that the Us took over indian land and killed them to acquire it. The is very wrong since the indians were peaceful people. Also, it is unhuman to not care about a race.
DeleteI agree with you because Jackson brutally murdered and tried to exterminate the indians when they were really doing nothing to go against him.
DeleteAlthough Andrew Jackson became a hero of the War of 1812, he was the Native Americans’ most threatening enemy. Jackson took no consideration of them and certainly didn’t bother to find a way that would benefit both the Native Americans and the them, the English. Instead he mercilessly murdered innocent lives. His first effort at Indian fighting was against the Creeks. Jackson recommended that after massacres his brutal military would also kill Indian women and children in order to complete the extermination. The Creeks lost 23 acres of land in southern Georgia and Alabama. Through murder, illegitimate treaties and others by resignation, Jackson managed to remove 46,000 Native Americans by 1837 from their land east of Mississippi.
ReplyDeleteI am in agreement with you when you mentioned that Jackson didn't bother to find a way that would benefit both the Natives and the Americans. If he would have actually had a heart and would 've taken some time to reflect on his indian removal plans he could have avoided so many deaths and injustices.
DeleteI agree that Jackson was very unfair and unjust with the native Americans and they didn't deserve to e treated in such ways and I like the fact that you mentioned that Jackson didn't think of a solution to the issue.
DeleteI completely agree with you on the idea that Jackson was a selfish and inconsiderable man that didn't take the time to find a way in which everyone, not just only him, will benefit and not get hurt in any way, instead of just simply killing so many innocent people without compassion.
DeleteI agree with you Jackson was really harsh with the indians. Jackson only cared about himself instead of others.
DeleteI agree with you because Jackson only took the indians land to use it for his own benefit and in the process he killed a lot of innocent people.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a great hero to the American people because of his work in the War of 1812. However, he was no hero to the Native American population in the U.S. Jackson was well known for fighting in the Battle of Horseshoe Bend against a thousand Creek Indians and killed 8 hundred of them, with the help of the Cherokee Indians(who by which were eventually removed from their land as well.) Jackson stated, "Listen-the truth is, the great body of the Creek chiefs and warriors did not respect the power of the United States-They thought we were an insignificant nation-that we would be overpowered by the British....They were fat with eating beef-they wanted flogging....We bleed our enemies in such cases to give them their senses," (128). This being said, Jackson felt that the Creek Indians got what they deserved and needed to be removed from the land.
ReplyDeleteI agree that Jackson treated the Indians horribly. he burned down a creek village in 1813 killing men, women, and children. in addition, his treaties with the Indians were unfair and only benefitted the white settlers.
DeleteI totally agree with your response and how Jackson was trying to show the Indians they were nothing to be taken lightly. Also, I like the way you cited the pages from the quotes you took from the book.
DeleteI agree that Jackson was considered a hero due to his military accomplishments. I also liked that you included the fact that Jackson has had conflicts with the Natives before.
DeleteIn my opinion, I wouldn’t call Andrew Jackson’s Indian policy a total shift in U.S. policy toward Native Americans. Howard Zinn states “Jefferson now committed the federal government to promote future removal of the Creek and the Cherokee from Georgia.” This reason alone illustrates the government’s outlook towards Native Americans and where and how Indians should reside. However, in no way does this compare to the tactics used by Andrew Jackson and his fellow officers. With the Indians having been born and raised in America’s southern and western lands they did not want to be driven out of them. They merely wanted to live in the land that they owned and had been living in for centuries. Jackson on the other hand, had different motives and sought to expand onto Native American territory allowing no obstacle to stand in his way. Whether it was making treaties and not keeping their word or brutally killing off Indian families, Jackson’s heroic image is a shadow over his wicked philosophy against Native Americans.
ReplyDeleteI agree. The Native Americans simply wanted to live on the land that they had been living on for years. Nice, great response by the way. Very discriptive.
DeleteDavid I completely agree with you. Jackson should have acted in a more rational matter regarding Indians. His obsession with land was what caused so many problems between Americans and Indians.
DeleteTo many American's Andrew Jackson was a hero, as a result to his work in the War of 1812. However, he was no hero to the Native Americans, but more as their biggest threat, enemy, and fear. "In 1820, 120,000 Indians lived east of the Mississippi. By 1844, fewer than 30,000 were left. Most of them had be forced to migrate westward. But the word 'forced' cannot convey what happened." (125) With this being said we see Jackson's true actions toward the Native Americans. Due to the fact the America was expanding, the ones in the way were the Native Americans. As a result of the Indians wanting to keep their land the US government used force to get them out, even murder of the innocent. Causing the Indian population to decrease.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the idea of the US government use of military force being the main cause of the decrease of their population. It was also resulted of the force of signed treaties that force the emigration to the west where many died of starvation, illness, and also from the coldest winter the ever faced. For example, out of 800 Cherokees who emigrated west about half died within 6 months of settling.
DeleteI agree with your point of Jackson wanting to remove the Indians, but I think you should of included how the Native Americans tried to adapt into the English way of life. Over all great response. :)
DeleteThe interests of the U.S government and the Native Americans had increasingly differed, because while the Indians wanted to keep and protect their homelands, the American population was expanding and over-taking the lands the Natives were desperately fighting for. Andrew Jackson, being a lead advocate in the Indian removal, only worsen the Indian's chances. President Andrew Jackson was considered a hero to the American public, and took direct attack in the removal of the Indian people. Having fought in the Battle of Horseshoe Bend. He deeply felt that the Indian people should be removed from their lands, for the benefit of all Americans.
ReplyDeleteI agree that the native American land was rapidly taken over by Americans. Andrew Jackson was just making the Indians lives impossible.
DeleteI agree with you about the native Americans. They were forced to leave if they didn't leave they were killed, but I disagree with you Jackson was not a hero if he was considered a hero why did he kill innocent Indians
DeleteDespite the fact that Andrew Jackson was a hero during The War of 1812, he was no hero to the Native Americans. As Howard Zinn states on page 130 "... in American history you will find Jackson the frontiersman, soldier, democrat , man of people- not Jackson the slave holder, land speculator, executioner of dissident soldiers, exterminator of Indians." Andrew Jackson caused severe damage to the Indians. He was the Indians most aggressive enemy in early american history. Jackson's troops burned down one of the creek villages. This caused the lives of many innocent people including children. He had no consideration towards the Indians and only caused distruction instead of trying to find a solution that would benefit both sides.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the fact that Jackson might of had other options in dealing with the expansion of America, but he decided to use violence in order to get what he wanted.
DeleteI agree with the fact that jackson had ruined many lives while he was in office
DeleteDuring the war of 1812 Andrew Jackson was seen by many as a true American heroic man. On the contrary, the Native Americans had a different perspective about Jackson they disliked him because he along with America wanted to take over their lands and territories. The Indians saw him as a harmful and powerful enemy that was always against them. Jackson had no right to go against the innocent natives because they had the right to live in their lands since they were born there. Jackson unjustly killed many Native Americans because he wanted to get rid of them. By using major forces such as also killing inoffensive women and children Jackson exterminated the Creeks and other Indians. As the population of the natives decreased over time the American territory began to take over by a large expansion. What Andrew Jackson did was only for the convenience of America, but not of the natives who were also supposed to benefit from this as well.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you that Jackson had no right to go against the innocent lives of the Native Americans since they were born there and was their land. Its not justice to go and kill people because you want to get rid of them especially women and children.
DeleteI agree with you. Jackson was a very evil man when it came to dealing with the Native americans, but in his case it had to be done, just like your PUGS LOLOLOLOLOL jk but yeah i agree
DeleteDue to Andrew Jackson's accomplishments in the War of 1812, he was a hero to all Americans. However, Jackson to the native Americans was one of their biggest enemies. Jackson did have conflicts with Natives before in his early Military career when he waged brutal campaigns against them. For America to continue to expand they needed the land that belonged to the Native Americans. Howard Zinn stated that the Indians were not needed, and an obstacle that could be dealt with sheer force. That is what we did and it caused the Natives to try and fight back. The Natives did this to protect their land but American's need for land caused the death of many Native Americans.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your statement. Many Americans thought of him to be a hero due to his accomplishments in the War of 1812, yet he murdered so many innocent lives just to expand US territory.
DeleteOf course, of course chucks view of Andrew Jackson was almost as similar to my, as if he copy. Nevertheless Andrew Jackson was good President towards his citizens and like any man, woman or friend he only wanted the best for his people
DeleteI agree Jackson was a hero to them due to what he did in the War of 1812. When he was really a terrible person and killed many innocent Native Americans.
DeleteThe interests of the US government and natives were at odds because of the fact that the government and jackson wanted to expand more towards the west. With the indian removal policy this meant that a variety of indian tribes would have treaties with jackson and be removed to the arkansas territory. But the Cherokee tribe would not want to be removed from their lands, so they signed a petition to allow them to stay at their homes. Though they had gotten enough signatures and passed it to congress, they had been ignored. so jackson had sent about 7000 armed troops forcing the indians to move. during the move on the trail of tears there had been 4000 deaths of the 10,000 cherokee indians that had been moved. this demonstrated how the indians interest of staying at their locations called home, differed from the governments interest of increasing the size of the us. jackson had felt that the indians should have been moved for the benifit of the US and the indians themselves.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that they were at odds because of the fact that the Natives were sitting on valuable resources, resources that Jackson needed. Also, I find it cruel that he ignored the Cherokees pleas to stay in their home.
DeleteCameron, I like the fact that provided details on what Jackson did to rid the Natives of their land and an estimate of the deaths on the Trail of Tears.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a true hero and a superb leader in the eyes of many Americans. However, in the eyes of the Native Americans he was nothing but a heartless cold blooded killer. His dream was to expand America and become a stronger united country, but there was a major obstacle. This "obstacle" he ran into were the Native Americans. Instead of trying to compromise with the Natives, he used cruel methods to finish them off. An example of his cruelty was what he did to the Creeks. Jackson decided to kill all of the warriors to expand and once he was done with that he felt it was right to kill off all of the innocent women and children to finish his plan of complete extermination. All in all, we can come to the conclusion that Jackson was not a fan of the Natives or vice versa because of him stating that the Natives got what they deserved with that horrific demonstration of war.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you in the fact that Jackson was"a heartless cold blooded killer." to the Native Americans and what proves it was the example you mentioned. Jackson could of stopped after killing the warriors and could of warned the rest of the Indians that any intrusion with his plan will result in death, but no he went and killed the innocent women and the children. That right there is a good example of Jackson's cruelty, so good job there "mi negro" I congratulate you.
DeleteI agree with your summary and how you described the cruel events that took place. More importantly, I liked how you emphasized on the women and children been murdered by Jackson's hand.
DeleteDue to his work in the war of 1812 Andrew Jackson became a hero, but not a hero to everyone. To the Native Americans Jackson was their biggest threat and enemy. Jackson became selfish in a way, and did not look for the opportunity to help the Native Americans and the Americans; he primarily looked out for himself first. He used a method of murder to exterminate the Native Americans such as the Creeks, who were the first Indians he fought. He planned out massacres were he would take innocent lives not only of men but women and children as well in order to get rid of them all at once. At the end the poor Creeks ended up losing a lot of their land in Georgia and Alabama. Through various methods of extermination Jackson managed to get rid of 46,000 Native American which is almost all of their population. As we can see here through the Chapter 7 of “A Peoples History of the United States” Jackson was not the perfect hero everyone though he was.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your response, and I like the way you describe how he didn't just kill the men, but all Native Americans. You should have included how Jackson forced the Natives out of their land and move to another location.
DeleteWell written paragraph, I like your response and I completely agree with you, Jackson indeed was not the perfect hero everyone thought was.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a hero in the view of the Americans, but through the eyes of some Indians he was their worst enemy. He believed in the removal of Indians because they were the ones in the way of their expansion. They found no need in them and they were doing everything they could to take their land. They were the cause of many innocent peoples death and it was all because of their greed. Jackson thought that the Indians needed to be exterminated so there would be nothing to stop them from expanding out as far as they wanted. In the end he used extreme forces to kill them off instead of trying to work out a compromise on what they could do.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you that Jackson could have had a compromise on what they could do but instead he kill them because he didn't want them to expand as far as they wanted to. There was really no reason to kill innocent people if they had just talked about it and agreed.
DeleteGreat facts, it's totally true that killing the Indians instead of making a compromise was brutal way of kicking them out of their own land. Which I find really sad.
DeleteAndrew Jackson has been seen both as an exterminating tyrant and as an example of an American hero. Before the eyes of the native americans, he was nothing more than an exterminator of their cultural race. The interests of whites and Andrew Jackson came into great conflict with the native americans' land and original settlements. Due to the vision of Andrew Jackson for the need of expanding agriculture and have sufficient land available for the increasing population of whites, he believed it necessary to remove natives from their own lands. His intense disliking for natives led the removal of the Creek and Cherokee tribes among others. In addition, for those natives who refused to leave their lands, as soon as Andrew Jackson became president, he began to pass laws in Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi that limited the rights of natives living there such as taking away the chief's power and refusing to approve of a right for voting and testifying in court. All the natives claimed for was their own permanent space for their worship of nature and nothing else, but for Jackson, this meant nothing and made no connection with his vision of expansion of territory for white settlers.The elimination of the natives did not come entirely directly from Jackson for there was also support of other Americans, like Van Every stated, there was a need for industrialization, commerce, railroads, cities, the rise in value of land, and, most menacing,
ReplyDeletethe greed of businessmen. The change, oppression and harsh conditions the natives faced under the arrived settlers resulted in decline from 1820 with 120,000 natives to only 30,000 by 1844.
Although he was the hero of the war of 1812, Andrew Jackson was the biggest threat to the Native Americans. When he began to seize land for land hungry private contractors, the Indians were the ones to get in the way. He began to massacre the Indians not caring if they were women or children, just caring about the amount of money that he was getting paid. At first he tried to barter with them, but the natives didn’t have a use for the white man’s money. He then tried to win them over with promises of safety and security from the other whites. This worked on some but still the majority just wanted to stay on the lands of their forefathers. The native’s interests were not in gaining land or selling it for a large profit, they just wanted to stay in their lands and raise their children based on their cultural and spiritual beliefs, which was clashing with the U.S’ interests, which was to expand more and more into Indian lands
ReplyDeleteI agree that Andrew Jackson was the biggest threat to native Americans. Although the Indians did no harm to Jackson he still kicked them out of their home.
DeleteI like how you added the part were the indians just wanted to stay there and raise their children the way they were raised
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a hero through the eyes of America. Although to the Indians he was a very bad person. Jackson would kill all the Indians just so nothing can stop America from moving into the West. Jackson thought that the Indians were of no use to America. Jackson killed a lot of innocent Indians including women and children. Jackson had not thought of making a agreement with the Indians to get some of their land.
ReplyDeleteI agree that Jackson wasn't concerned with weather or not he was hurting people his goal was to get his land.
DeleteI agree with you Gonzalo. Jackson was unfair with the Native Americans.
DeleteI agree with what you said about Jackson killing Indians just so America could expand west, but you should have mentioned the Trail of Tears as another way Jackson dealt with the Indians
DeleteIt was true the Native Americans deserved none of this. They were all innocent and Jackson was just a terrible person to them.
DeleteWhen compared, the American government and the Native American people had completely opposite interests. After America declared independence from Britain the Native Americans were to face the American people alone. The push toward the west was then pursued. President Thomas Jefferson initially thought that Indians “should not be interfered with.” However, because of this consistent push toward the west Jefferson committed to Indian removal of the Cherokee and Creek tribes from Georgia. Indians were angered by this interest of removal and were forcefully moved to the west. Andrew Jackson a hero to the American people created a fundamental shift in the U.S. policy toward Native Americans by pursuing the removal of Indians. Jackson continued the quest to the west by encouraging squatters to live on Indian Territory. Once these squatters settled he told tribes that the government could not remove the people, making the tribes sign treaties and move toward the west. An interest to make Indians more civilized arose in 1814. In Jackson’s treaty of 1814, the Creek Indians would have individual ownership of land, which would make them more civilized. Another tactic arose to further fuel the U.S. government’s interest in removing Native Americans was introduced when Jackson became president. Instead of removing the “Red Sticks” by force they would make them want to leave by enforcing the state laws, and torturing them with harassment. The Native American people did not agree with these interests, they wanted the complete opposite.
ReplyDeleteI like the information you put about the squatters.
DeleteReally liked your information and how it was coherent and got straight to the point. I also liked how you gave background information about jefferson and his thoughts on indian removal.one thing i would recommend is to quote Zinn directly from his book in order to make your arguments stronger. You still did a really good job, but then again you're Denton....so yeah.
DeleteTo the eyes of many common people, Andrew Jackson was considerable the greatest President of the nation since our founding father. Where he offered land of plenty, no matter the cost. But those who saw the action claimed by Jackson endure the wrath of one man. Jackson towards the Indians felt as they were a nuisance and the only way to deal with such a concern is to either exterminate or relocate their lands. Such ways know as the Trail of Tears which lead 10000 Indians to move further to the west with no home or anywhere to go. Depending on which side you on the U.S government is a friend or something you bare not to comprehend. Howard Zinn descript how the Native where only mere things where it can easily be removed. Andrew Jackson was either a man you adore or a man you despise.
ReplyDeleteJackson has always hated the indians and wanted their land for his people the comman man.Jackson did not like the British for he blamed the death of his mother and his sister on them.As we know that indians affiliated with the British durig war therefore they were also his enemy. After the battle of horseshoe him and his friends began to take the land of indians.He was appointed traty commisioner in which he took and push indians out of land that he would be able to use for cotton expansion and help his friends.All the indians wanted from all this fighting was to be left alone as Black Hawk said but the white man could not see that their interest was the land in which the indians stand.Specially for agriculture and expand the country as jefferson wanted just the only problem there was were the indians who were eventually moved and murdered.Forging a terrifying image of Andrew Jacksin in the indian's mind while forging the image of a great patriotic man to the american people.
ReplyDeleteGood paragraph, sums up the passage, I agree that Black Hawk just wanted his people to be left alone by the white men because they are corrupting them.
Deletegood post, i like how you state why Indian land was being taken away and what the Native Americans thought about it.
DeleteIn the eyes of many Americans, Andrew Jackson was a true hero due to his leadership in the war of 1812. On the other hand, the Native Americans weren’t very fond of Jackson. He had dreams for America which included to expand their territory and to unite the country to become stronger. To be able to accomplish his dreams, he had this scheme which consisted of him to exterminate the Native Americans. The first tribe he decided to use this tactic on was the Creeks. He first killed off all of the warriors but if that wasn’t enough, he unhesitatingly killed off all of the innocent women and children. To conclude, Jackson didn’t care for the Natives and to achieve his dreams and hopes of expansion he began to exterminate them one by one.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you and the way you explained his tactics was great, but don't forget to mention the way he felt about his massacre.
DeleteAndrew Jackson seemed to be a real hero in the perspective of the Americans. The Natives Americans truly disagreed with what the Americans thought Jackson was no where close to a hero to them. Jackson seemed to have a grudge again the Native Americans and treated them very brutal. Jackson wanted to kill every Native American killing men, women, and even kids which were all innocent. The Native Americans had the rights to own their own land and Jackson so not have taken that about from them. The Native Americans tried to fight back and keep their land but that didn't seem to work for them because they were over powered. Jackson could of easily found a way to work things out with the Native Americans but he did not at all.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you on the fact that he treated them very brutally due to the fact that he did not care how they were removed from their land but how fast. I also agree with you on the fact that the Natives had a right to there land, it was evident enough when the supreme court ruled in their favor in two cases.
DeleteAs quoted by Howard Zinn explaining the focus on Indian conflict, "The Indian Removal bill came before Congress and was at the time called the 'leading measure' of Jackson administration...." was the turning point for Indian interest to government. Jackson's Indian policy was giving each tribe a treaty where they were seperated to individual land holdings and that they're promised safety in the west. Howard Zinn states how the indians were defrauded by businessman and land speculators not white settlers who befriended the tribes. The treaties were renewed with the same unfullfilled promises. Soon Jackson turned to the state powers of Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi which created laws that outlawed the tribal meetings, no chief power, gave indians state taxes, and denied them rights to vote or in court. Although Congress stated that this was against Indian trade and Intercourse Act, Jackson ignored it and let the states continue. The Removal Bill passed by narrow 102 to 97 where North opposed of it. Chisckasaw and Creeks moved to west by forced treaties. As to the Cherokee, who felt the only choice was to adapt to the white civilization that might bring them peace, where soon forced as well to move west in the Trail of Tears. The Trail of Tears was forced upon by all of the federal government. As Jackson would end up ignoring the branches like as with Congress and Judicial chief John Marshall in Georgie vs. Worecester, where Marshall stated the state of Georgie broke the treaty. The Indians emigration to the west where they suffered from starvation, illness, and horrid clmate was also an effect of the unfullfilled promises of the U.S. government as they were promised aid but received barely any.
ReplyDeleteI like how you used a quote to start your response and how you used specific direct facts from the chapter. :)
DeleteLovely work, like Diana said I like how u started with the quote and then based your information upon it. Also I liked what u said about the treaties were renewed with the same unfulfilled promises, that is so true. Great work (:
DeleteAlthough Andrew Jackson was considered a hero too many because of the war of 1812, he was undeniably an enemy to the Native Americans. Andrew Jackson wanted Americans to expand to the west, but there were Indians already settled there. Since Native Americans were no longer needed in America, so Andrew Jackson burned villages, killed innocent Indians, and exiled thousands to the west. Jackson wanted the land Native Americans owned so that Americans can settle there. He did not care that Native Americans were the first ones there or that they valued their land. He just did for the benefit of the U.S., he didn't care how it would affect the Native Americans.
ReplyDeleteYeah Andrew Jackson was an enemy, know as Jackson the devil to the native. Even though he pretty much caused hatred
DeleteYeah Andrew Jackson was the devil for the Indian. His corruption ruined the lives of of thousands of native.
In my opinion Jackson was not a hero. For example , Jackson mistreated the Indianas. Jackson wanted Americans to settle West but many of the indians were settled there already. Jackson wasreally harsh to the indians he even killed indians that did not even know the answer why they were getting killed plus Jackson burned down villages. In order, for the americans to settle west.
ReplyDeleteEven though Andrew Jackson was a hero in the War of 1812 in the eyes of many people he was also the Native Americans’ most threatening and main enemy. Jackson was also cold hearted took no consideration of them and didn’t even bother to figure out a way that would benefit both the Native Americans and the English. He recklessly murdered innocent lives and his first effort at Indian fighting was against the Creeks. Jackson said that after all the murders he committed his brutal military would also kill Indian women and children in order to complete the extermination. The Creeks in result lose 23 acres of land in southern Georgia and Alabama. Through murder, illegitimate treaties and others by resignation, Jackson was capable of removing 46,000 Native Americans by 1837 from their land east of Mississippi.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you regarding the fact that Jackson was cold hearted man who did not care about the Indians. I over all like the way you executed your paragraph emphasizing important key points.
DeleteI agree with your response. Jackson was definitely the Native Americans' most threatening enemy.
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ReplyDeleteAndrew Jackson “The Tyrant or Grand Partisan”
ReplyDeleteAndrew Jackson has been considered a very controversial figure in history during 1829 -1837, representing both an autocratic tyrant and a personified a figure head of American nationalism. Jackson’s presidency was an era where progress was clearly visible to the typical white American man. In contrast to the Native Americans, slaves, and women who saw Jackson for who he really was. In the chapter “As Long as Grass Grows, and the Water Runs”, explains how Americans see the Native Americans as primitive people, and only as a mere deterrent in the eyes of Jackson . For example “The Indian not needed- Indeed, an obstacle..."(pg.97), Indians have become an obstacle for the American, thus making Jackson see Native Americans as a disadvantage to American expansion. In addition Jackson completely opposed the Indians and completely degraded them, “Jackson had no heart for Indians and their rights as he was, "...the most aggressive enemy of the Indians..."(pg.98).In support we see that Indians completely understood that Jackson would not show any mercy and would increase his aggression, “After the war with the creek Indians a treaty was written.”(pg.99).Removing Indians of their land and removing there rights, Jackson could have done a deal with the Indians but decided to do what he saw fit, “He would trick the Indians and, swindle them out of their land.”(pg.99)All this would eventually lead to the trail of tears removing many Indians from land all 25 million acres of it, and leaving all this land to the white American man. It is typical for a president to do what he thinks is best for the country, but not at the sake of millions of lives. Overall Jackson did what he thought was best for the white American man and he did an impeccable job at it leaving the white man in power, and not just to the superior over the Indian but as well over the slave and women.
Even though Andrew Jackson was known as a hero of the War of 1812, he was the Native Americans’ most threatening enemy. In the Battle of Horseshoe Bend Jackson's troops burned down one of the creek villages. This caused the lives of many innocent Native Americans including their children in fact it killed about eight hundred of them. Jackson had no consideration towards the Indians and only caused destruction in their lives instead of trying to find a more peaceful solution. As the population of the Native Americans decreased over time the American territory began to take over by a large expansion, the Creeks lost 23 acres of land in southern Georgia and Alabama. Jackson did what he thought needed to be done in order to expand America and in the eyes of many Americans he was a hero, but in the eyes of many Native Americans he was the villain of the story.
ReplyDeleteI agree as well with how you say that Jackson was the enemy of the story from the point of view from the Indians. Jackson betrayed the Indians too much and took away so many of their lives and land. He was part hero but also part villain.
DeleteI agree with your arguments about how Jackson was the villain or anatagonist of the indians. it was good how you talked about Jackson's actions, but you could have talked more about how the indians reacted to his harsh decisions.
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ReplyDeleteEarly on in the reading Zinn states, “Jackson was a land speculator, merchant, slave trader, and the most aggressive enemy of the Indians in early American history.” He then talks about how Jackson is described as a hero in textbooks, and on what his real character was. Zinn says that Jackson was not the exemplary man everyone thought he was. That he was only "the slaveholder, land speculator,executioner of dissident soldiers, exterminator of Indians.” Although he does't blame only Jackson himself, he also blame's the entire government. He says that the government was making unfair treaties with the Indians by deception and putting them under pressure. For example, "Every time a treaty was signed,...whites would move into the new area and the Creeks would feel compelled to sign another treaty, giving up more land in return for security elsewhere." Due to Jackson's unfair actions, the Greeks divided themselves. Some were willing to live in peace by following the civilization of the white men, while others refused to give up their land and culture. These people, were called "Red Sticks." "The Red Sticks in 1813 massacred 250 people at Fort Mims, whereupon Jackson's troops burned down a Creek village, killing men, women, children." The Red Sticks bravery and courage only resulted in the murder of many innocents lives and the establishment of Jackson's tactic. This tactic promised that whoever took property from the Red Sticks, the property taken would become theirs. Even when the Indians became armed with intrepidity, Jackson always managed to find a way to destroy their thoughts of believing they would at some point live in peace.
ReplyDeleteI think you meant to put Creeks instead of Greeks but I agree that Jackson was not the exemplary man everyone thought he was. I also like how you incorporated a lot of Zinn's ideas
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a hero in the eyes of the Americans because of the War of 1812. But in the perspective of the Native Americans he was their biggest threat. Native Americans saw Jackson as an enemy because he wanted to take away their land. Jackson wasn’t bother with this and didn’t want to benefit both Native Americans and the English so instead murder some innocent people. By doing this he got rid of the Creeks and other Indians so the population was now more of Americans. He did this for the Americans and didn’t realized that some natives benefited from this.
ReplyDeleteI agree with some of your statement. I do agree that many Americans saw Jackson as a war hero due to his accomplishments in the War of 1812 but to the Native's he wasn't. I do not agree with the Natives benefiting from this, and he did not want to make the population simply of Americans. The Natives did not benefit because they were killed for the benefit of America. The main purpose for this was to gain more land which was owned by the Natives. As a result, Jackson relocated them using the Trail of Tears, which killed over 2 thousand Natives.
DeleteJackson's actions in the War of 1812 demonstrates his capability of being a great American leader."Jackson was a land speculator, merchant, slave trader, and the most aggressive enemy of the Indians in early American history. He became a hero of the War of 1812, which was not just a war against England for survival, but a war for the expansion of the new nation, into Florida, into Canada, into Indian territory."As said by Howard, not only Jackson was an American "hero," but he was also the "most aggressive enemy of the Indians."Due to the fact that the new nation was expanding it's territories, and those territories were occupied by Indians, they viewed Jackson as the most pervert man that ever existed. I honestly don't blame the Indians since Jackson's actions resulted in the murder of thousands of innocent lives and the extinction of many tribes."In 1820, 120,000 Indians lived east of the Mississippi. By 1844, fewer than 30,000 were left. Most of them had been forced to migrate westward. But the word "force" cannot convey what happened." This quote demonstrates how brutal Jackson was with the innocent natives.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. Jackson may have expanded the country but too many Indian deaths resulted from his actions.
DeleteI totally agree with you churro, Jackson was the great american leader that expanded the U.S but was bad in a way by being a slave trader and causing a lot of Indian deaths when he was expanding the U.S. territory.
DeleteMany people (though not all) consider Andrew Jackson a hero but to certain people, he was considered a tyrant. It was because of Jackson that so many Indians disappeared within less than 25 years, reducing more than half of the Indian population from 1820 to 1844. Since the beginnings of their meetings, Indians wanted to remove whites from their lands and in turn, Jackson was interested in their lands. Jackson forced some Indians out of their lands, starting with the Creeks and Cherokee. The ones who refused to leave where given a "treaty" by Jackson but weren't exactly "free" in their own lands. Many had their own rights taken away so "treaties" they agreed on with Jackson weren't fair. Little by little in such a short amount of time, Jackson had his nation grow while the Indians had their own nation diminish.
ReplyDeleteyes, I agree that Andrew Jackson took advantage of the Indians. his treaties only benefited the white settlers. he forced the Indians to move from one area to the next promising them security but every time they settled in a new place white settlers would force them out.
DeleteI agree with you. Jackson shouldn't have lead them to believe that they were safe to settle somewhere when all the whites did was slowly but surely kick them out of the land.
DeleteI totally agree with you, and I like how you mentioned that he reduced more than half the population from 1820 to 1844. its true that Jackson gave a treaty to those who refused to leave but they were not exactly free in their own land.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a merchant, land speculator, slave trader, and a hero in the war of 1812. However, he was the most aggressive enemy of the Indians. He wanted to acquire their land for white settlers. Consequently, the population of Indians greatly reduced. In 1813 his troops burned down a Creek village and killed men, women, and children. His treaty of 1814 caused tension and division between the Indian tribes. "It granted Indians individual ownership of land, thus splitting Indian from Indian" (pg. 128). Jackson introduced the Indians to competition in his attempt to bring them into "civilization." However, the whites mostly benefited from Jackson's treaties. From 1814 to 1824 the whites took over three-fourths of Alabama and Florida, one-third of Tennessee, one-fifth of Georgia and Mississippi, and parts of Kentucky and North Carolina. In addition, he encouraged white squatters to settle on Indian lands. When they complained to him he simply stated that the government couldn't remove the settlers. Consequently, the Indians had to cede the lands or be wiped out. Jackson forced the Indians out of their lands and burned their villages when they refused. He was cruel and selfish towards the Indians.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you. He was unfair to the Indians.
Deletei agree with you. Jackson was a hero but only for the whites. He was the complete opposite towards the Indians. Which I guess only makes him half a hero since he favored the white.
DeleteJackson’s policy towards was different compare to past presidents. The expansion westward by settlers had led to confrontations between the Indians and the Americans, which called for an immediate resolution to the problem. However Jackson did not act to the interest of the “common man” but to the interest of the plantation owners, land seekers, and politicians. The Indians only wanted to have their land and some were even willing to live alongside the settlers. Some Indians however felt threatened by the incoming amount of new settlers and were tired of the lies made by the US government, so they resisted. Jackson seeing Indian removal as the quickest way to solve the problem with the Indians, used treaties and wars to drive them out instead of trying other approaches. The result was that the Indians wanted to stay while the United States wanted the land. This led to Jackson using force and fake treaties to drive this people out of their own land.
ReplyDeleteJosue I agree with what wrote about the Indians fighting back for what is theirs. Great work on the information as well, but you could have elaborated a bit on Jackson's policies so I can get sense of just a few.
DeleteI agree with your response but remember because of the rapid increase in population during the 1800s in the US was also one of the reasons he wanted to expand to the west.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was considered a hero in the War of 1812 but that is not the way Indians saw it. In the eyes of many indians he was an enemy for the reason that he believed they should be removed because they were the reason why the Americans were not expanding. He murdered and exterminated the Native Americans but this only helped out the Americans. This lead to the population of Native Americans to decrease and the Americans took over. Andrew Jacksons selfishness did nothing but harm the Indians. The only thing he cared about was he Americans which in my opinion takes away the view of him being a “hero”. Jackson was no hero he did not think about the Indians and killed many of them, he believed that is what they deserved but that is not true. If they were born there they should not be removed from their land.
ReplyDeleteI agree if you are a hero, then you are a hero to everyone not just a certain race or population. Something that Jackson wasn't...
DeleteI agree with you a hero shouldn't be killing people that are peaceful. Its unfair to rip something away from a certian group just because you feel like it. You should treat people kindly if they dont do anything to you. It's unhuman to be killing people for a negative cause.
DeleteI as well agree with you because when someone is considered a hero it is because he/she has done something in order to be acknowledged by people with that title. Jackson, on full contrast, deserved no right for people to be praising him as a man of honor. Instead he deserved no respect simply because he had no compassion on all the innocent and young lives he took away.
DeleteIf you were a white male who is either a politician, land seeker, plantation owner, or just an all American patriot. You'd have thought that president Andrew Jackson was one of the greatest leaders that America had since the founding fathers. Defeating the Natives in the war of 1812 and gaining recognition as one of America's defenders gave him some notoriety. The ones who resented president Jackson were the ones being oppressed, the Native Americans. The native were not always as "savage" as white settlers called them, some were peaceful and some were not as peaceful. However, when the "Old Hickory" decided to run a country based on agriculture, he took advantage of the Natives' lands by forming false treaties and the notorious Indian Removal Acts. In a sense the natives were robbed of their land and prosperity. Jackson wanted the land for his envision on an agrarian economy and the natives stood their ground and lost.
ReplyDeleteThe paragraph is good but needs more information about Jackson.
DeleteI agree to what your saying but remember Jackson hated Indians and because of that he did not think twice of what he was doing.Maybe his hatred towards Indians are what led to the tragic oppression that happened in the 1830s.
DeleteMuch of Jackson's work was seen as "heroic" to many, although not to the Native Americans. He envisioned an expansion of America, but had the Natives be an interference or obstacle towards his goal. He had no intentions of compromising with the Natives, but instead killed them off. He burned down a creek village killing many innocent men, women, and children. This method was much cheaper, faster, and easier for him. In conclusion, the land expansion of Andrew Jackson helped benefit America, but in return he gained enemies.
ReplyDeleteIn chapter seven, Zinn notes, “Indian removal was necessary for the opening of the vast American lands to agriculture, to commerce, to markets, to money, to the development of the modern capitalist economy.” Tecumseh, a Shawnee chief, tried to unite his people and stand up against the whites. After the war ended, Jackson and his cronies began buying as much seized Creek land as they could, while working out lopsided treaties with the Creek leaders. Zinn outlines, “Every time a treaty was signed, pushing the Creeks from one area to the next, promising them security there, whites would move into the new area and the Creeks would feel compelled to sign another treaty, giving up more land in return for security elsewhere.” Indians continued to get pushed onto onto smaller pieces of land. Chief Black Hawk says, ”The white men do not scalp the head; but they do worse–they poison the heart.” With the continued expansion of the colonies, what followed were a series of policies that left Native Americans with very little choice but to move. I am not surprised that our nation was built on the forced removal of Native Americans to make way for the capitalist policies of whites.
ReplyDeletethe paragraph is a great interpretation of the chapter and the way you ended it really stands out as a strong opinion that I'm sure many people can agree on.
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DeleteVery well worded i have to say that noticing how the removal of Indians stimulated the economy was very significant for Jackson to show to his people that he had power and he knew how to use it very well and effectively.In addition mentioning Tecumseh is very interesting because he was a advocate for uniting his people. In regards to the treaties the Indians did not have coherent rights over their land so hey were basically sitting ducks on top of a pot of gold in Jackson's eyes. I completely agree Jackson being the great orator as he was knew how manipulate his power over
Deleteothers, in order to do good for the white american man.
It could be considerably agreeable that Andrew Jackson was an extremely selfish man. He only sought to seek more land no matter what obstacles appeared; in this instance the Indians. In order to continue his expansion for land, he didn't bother caring what these groups of Indians suffered nor did he care about their families sacrifices. The Indians only wanted their own tiny pieces of land to sovereign (which was nothing compared to the American's land). Yet, Jackson fought for those lands as if they were the most valuable things to him and his followers. As he continued to want a slave state of Georgia he didn't see how he could kill a group or community who are just trying to survive. But a mans way to get power is greater than any others life. The same way Jackson didn't care about the Indians after applying the Indian Removal Act.
ReplyDeleteAndrew Jackson, in the eyes of his fellow countrymen, was viewed as a hero for his military service, yet he abused his power which marked him as a tyrant. Thomas Jefferson said once, "Indian removal was necessary for the opening of the vast American lands to agriculture, to commerce, to markets, to money, to money to the development of the modern capitalist economy." P.88 This was not without cost, especially during the reign of Jackson because his attitude towards Indians was shown during his raids in Florida where he burned many Seminole villages. This was because some tribesmen killed white squatters (which Jackson and others encouraged) in the Florida territory. Jackson wanted this to happen in order to have a unselfish reason for raiding Florida; Jackson's true intention was to seize Florida and sell the land, he also became governor of this new land. When he became President, Jackson abused his power as president in the supreme court ruling of Worcester v. Georgia, which he refused to enforce, which also led Georgia to put Cherokee land up for sale and crush all resistance. The Cherokee and other tribes were later moved to the Oaklahoma territory which was later named as the infamous Trail of Tears. Jackson's terms as president are highly controversial time in U.S history, Jackson was viewed as a man of the people to some, and a tyrant to others.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Alfredo, Jackson did abuse his power and was a tyrant. Also his terms as president were really controversial.
DeleteVery good response overall Alfredo. I liked how you mentioned the Squatters and how they were influenced by Andrew Jackson to explore Indian-owned land just so they would fight with the Indians and Jackson would be able to seize that land.
DeleteThe United States just wanted land for themselves and really did not care what became of the Natives. In places such as Florida where the Seminole villages were attacked and burned so Jackson may acquire land for plantations. The Indians were willing to make peace with the settlers but all they did was lie,cheat, and deceive the peaceful natives.The united states was populating fast and more plantations were needed therefore, western expansion was required. Indian removal was just something Jackson would call the brutal force of taking away the Indians land.The Americans were land hungry and the Indians were just one more obstacle the Americans weren't hesitant to plunder by force.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Annika. Jackson shouldn't have been so forceful with the removal of the Indians, afterall it was their land to begin with they should have respected that instead of being so self-serving.
DeleteI totally agree with you Annika.Jackson shouldn't of treated the indians the way he did. He could of approached it a different way instead of just lieing,cheating etc.
DeleteAlbeit most Americans believe that Andrew Jackson was the "best president", he was a very conniving man when dealing with the Native Americans. Jackson's thirst for land encouraged him to deceive the Native Americans with the promise of their own property elsewhere in the West and security from white settlers. In chapter 7 Zinn explains how Jackson "encouraged white squatters to move into Indian lands, then told the Indians the government could not remove the whites and so they had better cede the lands or be wiped out." This made it absolutely necessary for Indians to be "pushed from one area to another" while the whites would take the land. Jackson was ruthless, doing every thing in his power to appease himself and white settlers to the point where, under his presidency, more than seventy thousand Indians were kicked out of their land. Jackson even had the audacity to raid Florida, Zinn states that Jackson had been "arguing it was a sanctuary for escaped slaves and for marauding Indians." I like Zinn's quote of "If you look through high school textbooks and elementary school textbooks in American history you will find Jackson the frontiersman, soldier, democrat, man of the people-not Jackson the slaveholder, land speculator, executioner of dissident soldiers, exterminator of Indians." Jackson was clearly a contradictory kind of man and Zinn demonstrates that in the previous quote from chapter 7.
ReplyDeleteAndrew Jackson’s Indian policy represented a political shift in the U.S toward Native Americans because it gradually shifted these people more and more to the west. After the war of 1812 was settled, the Indians were left to fight against their intruders, the Americans, by themselves. Although the thoughts and philosophies of the Indians were simple, let me keep my land, the controversial factor was that the U.S wanted the potential money-making land that the Indians possessed. Andrew Jackson consistently pushed the Indians further into the western territory by forcing them to sign multiple treaties. One tactic that Jackson utilized was trying to convert the Native Americans into a more civilized society. Howard Zinn elaborates this idea by describing how Jackson decided to give individual ownership of the land to different Indians. This, in a way, let Indians trade or bribe their current land to land that other Indians possessed. One very important aspect in Jackson’s journey of Indian removal is that he also utilized wrath and destruction to force them out of their land. This is also an example of how contrasting many people describe President Jackson’s personality. In conclusion, the demands of Native Americans were impossible to please in the eyes of the US government, so they decided to act with the next choice, the Indian Removal to the west.
ReplyDeleteGreat response, i like how you explained the different ways Andrew Jackson strategized to take Indian land and why their land was needed.
DeleteAlthough Andrew Jackson was a hero during the War of 1812, he was also looked as a enemy to the native americans. He was a freak for expansion of the US and will do anything to expand it, even if it meant for him to have the native american removal. He believed in making a better and strong country and the only way for it was to exterminate the Natives. On the other hand, the Natives were against of the thought of them moving from their lands in which they were born and raised. The Natives were hopeless because Jackson at the time was killing every Native American and burring down their villages. To conclude, Andrew Jackson was land hungry and didn't care if he had to kill 10 or even 1000's of Natives to achieve what he wanted.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you Daniel. Jackson was an enemy of the Native Americans and would do anything in his hands to take away their land. He also didn't care if it meant killing innocent people.
DeleteI agree with you Daniel, Jackson was a very selfish president. He didn't care about anyone or anything all he cared about was the expansion of the U.S.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a remarkable hero to the American people because of his leadership in the Battle of New Orleans in the War of 1812. However, he was no hero to the Native American population due to his belief in which Natives are inferior to the white man. Although the thoughts and philosophies of the Indians were simple, "let me keep my land", the controversial factor was that the U.S wanted the potential money-making land that the Indians possessed. This lead to the population of Native Americans to decrease and the Americans took over. Andrew Jackson's selfishness did nothing but harm the Indians Some Indians, however, felt threatened by the incoming amount of new settlers and were tired of the lies made by the US government, so they resisted. This led to Jackson using force and fake treaties to drive these people out of their own land.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you when you mentioned how Jackson saw the Natives as being inferior to white men. This helps us get a look into Jackson's opinions on the Natives and helps us understand his justifications for Indian Removal even though we might not agree.
DeleteParticularly, in most people’s eyes they see Andrew Jackson as one of the “best president.”Jackson was a very cunning person. He didn't like Indians well he didn't really give a care about them. All he did was just use them take away their land etc. In chapter 7 Zinn explains how Jackson treated the Indians and about how the white would just takeover Indian lands como nada and that they couldn’t get the land back because the white people were already there and they had to go somewhere. The government wasn't on the Indians side. The government forced the Indians out of their land and even killed innocent people.The native americans were just a obstruction for the americans just in the way of their hunger for land.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you in the fact that Americans all just were hungry for land but not in the fact that Jackson didn't like the Native Americans he just didn't care much for them or just didn't take them much into consideration.
DeleteI agree with the fact that Andrew Jackson was a cunning person.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a hero to many but, he was also looked at as an enemy to others. He was considered a hero because of the battle of New Orleans but in the eyes of the Native Americans he was the worst. The Indians considered him an enemy because all he was trying to do was expand the land of the U.S.. This meant that he had to have the Native Americans removed from their land. Jackson believed in exterminating every Indian in order to make America a better country. Andrew Jackson was being selfish and wasn't looking at the fact that it was the Indians land already. The fact that he drove out the Indians from their land took away the hero in him. Eventually Jackson got what he wanted, he gained more land for America.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you that Jackson was a cruel man; Indian removal was certainly an unnecessary act. In my opinion, matters are worsened when we read that there were tribes that were more than willing to cooperate with the Americans.
DeleteDue to Jackson's success in the war of 1812 he was well known as a hero to many Americans. Jackson was interested only in serving his fellow white man. However in the perspective of the Indians Jackson was exiling them from their original native land. The Americans argued that since they were already in the land, the Indians should go off in search of other territory. Jackson wanted to expand American land so he did all in his power to make it possible, so he even killed many Indians in the process. Although some Indians resisted Jackson's takeover he made some controversial treaties that caused the Indians go else where. Although Jackson received land out of all this it wasn't the right way to do so.
ReplyDeleteIts very important that we realize Jackson's motives as you said his interests where in serving his fellow white man . I support the fact that he did what he though was best for one ethnic group the white american man . He did many things to support his country supporting manifest destiny and expanding the power of the presidency.
DeleteJackson was know as a notorious hero of the War of 1812. In the panorama and perspective of the Native Americans he was their greatest enemy. Jackson wanted to withdraw all the land from the Indians. He forced the Native Americans away from their lands. The Cherokee and Creeks were some of those tribes affected by his actions. Some were given a fake treaty by Jackson. He eventually broke the treaties and drove people out of their land.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you bro, Jackson lied to the Indians by signing fake treaties and then kicking them out of their own land. He sure was the Native Americans greatest enemy.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was seen in the eyes of the Americans as a hero. He took land from the Native Americans to give it to the Americans in a brutal way. Jackson made a treaty with the Indians to keep the peace within each other but didn't follow it. To obtain the land in which the Indians were located the Indians had to be removed from their homeland. the Indians were moved West and on their way left many dead.The Indian population was reduced drastically during this time. Andrew Jackson tricked the Indians to be been as a great president.
ReplyDeleteI totally agree with you regarding the fact that Jackson tricked the Indians into being seen as a hero when in reality he wasn't. I really like the way you executed your paragraph.
DeleteI agree with you and like Marina I also like how you executed your paragraph. Well done.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was a hero in the eyes of the american people for his courage and leadership that made the U.S. soldiers defeat the British Army in the War of 1812. However, he was the Native Americans worst enemy. Jackson wanted to expand the U.S. by getting more land, his vision was positive for the country but for the natives that was death. He was trying to expand the country by getting land that was from the Indians, the Indians had been in that land for centuries. To get that land from the Indians he killed a lot of innocent Native American, he also forced them to migrate west and make a new life at a new place. All the actions that Andrew Jackson did were to make the U.S. better and stronger, nothing was going to stop him from accomplishing what he wanted.
ReplyDeleteAndrew Jackson's persona can be viewed as a very controversial one. He is seen by many as a heroic figure who wanted the best for his country. On the other hand, others view him as an evil man who was ruthless and had blinding motives. Jackson won the Battle of New Orleans for his fellow Americans, this helped him win Americans' trust and thus he was able to pursue his goal of becoming president of the U.S. Once president, he began carrying out his plans for the nation. One of his most significant plans was the removal of Indians from Florida and its surrounding territories. He completed this task by killing off several members of Indian tribes such as the Creek. Then he continued his plan by conducting his Indian Removal Acts such as the Trail of Tears. Many innocent Indians died along the way on this migratory walk to Oklahoma and so Indian population lowered. This is just one reason as to why Jackson can be thought to be a ruthless, wreckless, and careless president; he did not care for the well-being of the Indians. He essentially wanted the expansion of the country to benefit himself.
ReplyDeleteI agree with your statement. I like how you explain the damaged he caused and how he was no hero.
DeleteI like how you wrote about him being a contradicting man, and about how even though some saw him as a war hero he was also a ruthless man.
DeleteI definitely agree with you on your thoughts about Jackson having a complex personality and I really like how you mentioned that once he took the presidency he began to make all these changes that greatly affected the Indians.
DeleteFor the American people Jackson was a national hero for his amazing work in the battle of New Orleans but his Native American policy says otherwise. Although forcing the Native Americans to move was partially necessary for the further settlements of the American people in the West doing so in a cruel and unjustified manner wasn’t. In the Battle of Horseshoe Bend Jackson’s troops burned down one of the villages in which many innocent Native Americans were killed including children. Instead of forcing the Native Americans move to a new and unknown land Jackson should have instead migrated the white settlers to the land where the Native Americans settled. But of course Jackson would have never done that.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you because even though he was a national hero, he did cause a lot of damage to native Americans by moving them out of their territory.
DeleteI also agree with you because it is true. The fact that he was still called a hero even after forcing the Native Americans to leave their hometown only made him look like anything but a hero.Your statement explains the damage Jackson created and how it is proven that he was no hero too many.
DeleteI totally agree Loraine.I like the point you made at the end talking about instead of forcing the native americans to move to a new and unknown land jackson should have instead migrated the white settlers to the land where the Natives Americans settled pero no he didnt good point Loraine.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was considered a hero among his Americans because he won the Battle of New Orleans and helped the lower class citizens acquire the right to vote and be part of the nation. Yet he wasn't a total hero to the Native Americans. He took the lives away of thousands of innocent natives. He conducted his Indian removal acts and led the trail of tears. In this he was able to flee away the Indian tribes such as the creek, taking their land away from them leaving them no choice but to migrate to Georgia. Over all he acquire this land to benefit himself by expanding slavery and using it for cotton plantations.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you. In my opinion Jackson was more evil than good. He was a selfish old man.
DeleteI agree with you, Jackson indeed was not all of a hero, like you said, he took the lives away of thousands of innocent natives.
DeleteI also agree with you Julie. I like how you pointed out his goods as president but also started the bad. Yes he wasn't as everyone else states such a good hero, he had he downfalls.
DeleteThe interests of of the natives became increasingly at odds with the interests of the U.S. government because the Americans wanted land that didn't belong to them. As whites continued to move westward, the pressure on the national government increased. By the time Thomas Jefferson became president whites had outnumbered Indians eight to one, that made it easier to remove them.The Indians were willing to coexist with the whites, in fact the natives actually learned English, wore their European clothing, and some of them even converted into Christianity. Despite the indians efforts to coexist with the whites they went ahead and took their home anyways.
ReplyDeleteIn the eyes of many Americans, Andrew Jackson was viewed as one of the greatest presidents we had after the Founding Fathers. Many Americans talk about how Jackson was a war hero, how he supported the "Common Man", and was credited with many other thing. However, few Americans know about the controversies Jackson had, and Indian Removal was one of them. Since the population in america was increasing rapidly during the 1800s the country needed more land and so Jackson wanted to expand to the west. However Jackson's only problem was that the Western Lands were occupied by Indians. Jackson wanted the Indians out of their own lands so he signed broken treaties and tricked the Indians to give up their lands. In the end Jackson was so blinded by his ambition to expand to the west and make America stronger that he forcibly removed the Cherokee Nation and many other Indian tribes out of their own lands.
ReplyDeleteI completely agree with you and I think we share the same ideas but I think you should acknowledge the fact that the need of land was not an idea brought up by Jackson. It was brought up by Washington and Jefferson so any of them could have made the mistake to hurt all these Indians. Other than that, we share the same idea.
DeleteAndrew Jackson was seen as a war hero in many people’s eyes and one of the greatest presidents. He fought in the Battle of New Orleans and won the support for lower class citizens. He believed that the common people should have the right to vote and be part of the nation like beliefs of Jefferson. In the eyes of the Native Americans he was something else, a devil to them. He wanted to acquire land from the Indians so he did a removal act that led to the trail of tears. In that trail more than 2,000 Indians died which included women and children. All the land he took was to help his belief of an agrarian economy.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you, but do you believe he was a devil or did he simply make a mistake in the way he handled the increase or taking of the land? I think he could have offered a better solution and that is why he is seen as a devil because his action caused deaths that had consequences. Jackson did not hate the Indians he, just like you said, wanted to help his belief of an agrarian economy.
DeleteI totally Agree with you. You pointed out the key points about Jackson. I also agree how you called Jackson the "devil". I mean the native Americans did nick name him "Jackson the devil". I strongly agree with your post.
DeleteIn the eyes of many Americans, Andrew Jackson was seen as a war hero. To the Indians, however, he was seen as an enemy. Andrew Jackson took their land with no warning whatsoever. He had made peace with them and then just because he wanted more land he decided to not follow it and do what he wanted to. The Indians did everything they could so they wouldn't have to leave. They dressed in European clothing, learned to read and write English, but no matter what they did did, it was useless. Jackson made the Indians move to the west, leaving everything behind. He basically kicked them out of their own land where they had everything to now an unknown place. It was really unfair, many died on their way. Jackson was hated by the Indians
ReplyDeleteJackson was seen as a hero because in 1814 he fought the Battle of Horseshoe bend against a thousand Creeks. In addition, he was the first president to extend the people's voice and stop revolving around all those political parties. He was actually working for the common well of others. On the other hand, the Indians saw him as a devil because he removed them from their land. I don't understand why they only blamed this on Jackson if Jefferson also mentioned that it was best if they moved because that land was needed. The problem was that they were at the wrong place at the wrong time. What Jackson did was take his power to actually force them to leave and he did this by making them sign treaties. The Indians tried to assimilate themselves to avoid leaving but they didn't accomplish anything. Jackson did bad in doing what he did to the Indians but it was not because he hated them, he was actually not thinking about them. He was thinking about improving the United states but eventually the need to increase the land by removing the Indians led to serious consequences.
ReplyDeleteAs many people would think and say that Andrew Jackson was known as a hero. All thanks to his leadership led in the War of 1812. Although, the Native Americans saw Jackson as their enemy. Jackson had a type of anger forwards them always treating them very bad. Jackson believed he was doing what was best and was taking all the Native Americans land. Yet he did it in such a brutal way. Instead of making an agreement with the Native Americans he simply just killed them all, women and children as well. Jackson killed all those innocent lives, out of greed. He was only thinking/doing what was best for his people. Without realizing all the destruction he was doing to the Indians. It was suppose to profit both the Natives and Jackson's people. Yet instead it only decreased the number of natives and opened up more land, just how Jackson wanted.
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